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Support changes; altered meta-game

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Soraka

* Base health increased to 375 from 359
* Base health per level increased to 71 from 67

* Starcall** Cooldown reduced to 2.5 from 3
** Base damage reduced to 60/85/110/135/160 from 60/90/120/150/180
** AP ratio increased to .4 from .25
** Mana cost reduced to 35/40/45/50/55 from 40/50/60/70/80
** Shred increased to 8/9/10/11/12 from 8/8/8/8/8
** Maximum stacks reduced to 10 from 20
** Cast range increased by 30.

* Astral Blessing
** AP Ratio reduced to 0.45 from 0.9
** Cooldown increased to 20 from 10
** Base Heal increased to 65/130/195/260/325 from 60/120/180/240/300
** Armor Buff increased to 25/50/75/100/125 from 20/35/50/65/80
** Armor buff duration increased to 5 from 4
** Cast range increased to 750 from 650

* Infuse** AP ratio increased to .75 from .6
** Cooldown reduced to 10 from 15
** Silence duration compressed to 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 from 1/1.5/2/2.5/3
** No longer grants double mana to soraka on selfcast.


* Wish
** Wish AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.3
** REVERTED (Base heal reduced to 200/300/400 from 200/320/440)
** Mana cost reduced to 100/175/250 from 200/275/350

Sona
* Aria of Perseverance
** Base heal reduced to 25/50/75/100/125 from 35/70/105/140/175
** AP Ratio reduced to .25 from .35
** Now grants double her passive aura bonus to her heal target and herself for 3 seconds.
* Fixed a bug where Hymn of Valor and Aria of Perseverance caused her to deal 20% reduced damage
* Reduced the lockout time while casting Sona's songs to make them more responsive.

Taric - (The comprehensive Taric changes will be out the following patch)
* Base attack speed increased to .625 from .613
* Imbue
** Ability power ratio reduced to 0.6 from 1.1
** Cooldown increased to 24/23/22/21/20 seconds from 16/15/14/13/12
** Basic attacks against enemy champions now reduce Imbue’s cooldown by 4 seconds (still 2 seconds against other targets)

Nidalee
* Javelin Toss
** Mana Cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100
** Cooldown reduced to 6 from 7
* Pounce
** May now be affected by cooldown reduction
** Cooldown increased to 3.5 from 3
* Primal Surge
** Mana cost changed to 60/80/100/120/140
** Base heal changed to 50/85/120/155/190 from 60/90/120/150/180
** AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.25
* Swipe AP ratio increased to 0.4 from 0.2
* Aspect of the Cougar now grants 10/15/20 Armor and Magic Resist instead of 10% Dodge
* General
** Cleaned up a lot of Nidalee's tooltips, especially Cougar form


More coming soon when I get the info. I don't have information on the other healers yet.



Posted by Shurelia a few days ago

This post has been edited by Srs Kexis: 17 August 2011 - 11:16 PM


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Just saw that shit HOLY FUCK, they should just delete those characters.
http://na.leagueofle...d.php?t=1102898

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Why does sona even have Aria of Perseverence? Its already a bad heal as it is, now it's even worse.

They want supports to be aggressive in a lane, but they fail to realize that not everyone is Alistar and Taric.

As a support player, i'm disappointed but let's see what happens when the changes are implemented.

This post has been edited by Flurospar: 17 August 2011 - 11:35 PM


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Yeah this aggresive support talk is really dumb considering the skills Soraka and Sona have in their arsenal.
I was going to say that the Poppy "lategame nerf" incoming was going to make Poppy the most useless champ; but DAYUM, if those Soraka changes go through, AD Soraka would probably be the most viable route to go. In other words she will become completely useless.

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View PostQQed In A Tutu, on 17 August 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

Yeah this aggresive support talk is really dumb considering the skills Soraka and Sona have in their arsenal.
I was going to say that the Poppy "lategame nerf" incoming was going to make Poppy the most useless champ; but DAYUM, if those Soraka changes go through, AD Soraka would probably be the most viable route to go. In other words she will become completely useless.


Here's my thoughts about the whole thing

SORAKA:

I wouldn't go as far as to say that AD soraka would be viable now, but she's in a rather tough spot atm.

With the change to infuse, she no longer has that mana sustain, so you have to work in some early mana regen to counterset it. (Im thinking Philo stone or mana manipulator)

The starcall change strikes me as odd, you want soraka to be aggressive but still be support, Why didn't you buff up her defenses or make her starcall range bigger to make up for the fact that she has to get closer to enemies to harass, and she's already squishy as hell.

Her W could use some scaling down but goddamm it got its ratio cut in half. Seems abit overkill. Her ult ratio is acceptable.

SONA:

At this rate, just delete her W skill and give us a new one.

TARIC:

Granted his heal is now weaker, but he should be fine.

NIDALEE:

Javelin Toss gets a lowered mana cost and lowered cooldown. I'm ok with this.

Pounce now being effected by CDR is nice, now with decent CDR you can GTFO out of bad situations/Chase down weak enemies alot better now.

Primal Surge. The heal on it was overpowered. It needed the ratio nerf so this is actually ok. The attack speed buff on it was untouched so this actually works nicely.

Swipe is good. and The Armor/MR additions on her ult is decent.



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This coordinates PERFECTLY with the recent Tanky DPS buffs.

I can definitely see 3 Tanky DPS Champions with a Support and Ranged AP Carry being the new metagame. Easily.

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View PostNecroSan, on 17 August 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

This coordinates PERFECTLY with the recent Tanky DPS buffs.

I can definitely see 3 Tanky DPS Champions with a Support and Ranged AP Carry being the new metagame. Easily.


Ironically, wasn't riot trying to get away from the Tanky DPS meta? Seems slightly retarded to do this with that being said.

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View PostFlurospar, on 17 August 2011 - 11:55 PM, said:

Ironically, wasn't riot trying to get away from the Tanky DPS meta? Seems slightly retarded to do this with that being said.


The best part is that shields were the OP part of supports several months ago.

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I hate soraka...lol with a passion shes soooooooooooooo annoying

I am so happy with the nidalee changes shes by far my favorite healer~

I approve of these changes!~ :thumbsup:

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I love playing soraka. its so much fun playing that type of support, Nidalee is the strongest healer due to the IAS bonus from the skill. But that global heal is just very nice.

But i don't see Kayle on there

This post has been edited by PsychoWolfen: 18 August 2011 - 03:24 AM


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Nerf on Sona?, and here I thought my favorite support couldn't get anymore useless. I couldn't play her before and now I still can't play her anymore.

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View PostQuit.exe, on 18 August 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

Nerf on Sona?, and here I thought my favorite support couldn't get anymore useless. I couldn't play her before and now I still can't play her anymore.


you actually gotta build AP on her now, and shes not useless

her ultimate is one of the most game breaking ultimates, since it can literally help your team ace for the win :sweat:

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