[Aeromesi]

Flash Stepping

Guide created by: Aeromesi

About:

This move isn't bunny hopping, the key combo is explained in the video but I will also explain it in this description.

Basically flash stepping is like wave canceling/wave stepping. Except, you don't use A/D+Spacebar (Side dashing) to perform this trick, it saves huge amounts of SP and it's fast as hell, so fast I had pros calling me a speed hacker =P, if this move can be done continuously, your enemy will be going "WTF?????", this move is also good against snipers/revolver users, the key combo is WW+W+Spacebar+W

Basically the first forward dash is performed when you're about to hit the ground, as soon as you hit the ground hit W again but hit spacebar 2nd and then W again, note you need to do this key combo FAST and make sure you don't make it WW+WW+Spacebar or it will not work, basically the 2nd dash you perform breaks your jump when you land on the ground causing your character to barely jump in the air. If this is done repeatedly you'll have amazing results. I hope you enjoy.

Aeromesi

[Ezreal]

k, wel yea

So, who comes up with the names for these useless space-bar/w pieces of crap. "Flash stepping"

>Not Bleach; tis' s4

But, anyways, seems like you're throwing down a lot of effort just to run in a straight line. I mean, let's be honest. What's this flash walking thing, compared to someone WHO KNOWS HOW TO AIM. Though that's majority, but still. Seems like you'd still be running in a straight line, and personally if i'm going to try and go some place, why not run to get to my destination faster. What's saving a few 15-30 ish sp when their is still the obstacles of a cs or Twin-blades AND constant fire.

I'm not saying this is useless, but I just can't see this being used on like old-school, or station 1.

[Aeromesi]

i hate you ;-;, on 01 April 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:

k, wel yea

So, who comes up with the names for these useless space-bar/w pieces of crap. "Flash stepping"

>Not Bleach; tis' s4

But, anyways, seems like you're throwing down a lot of effort just to run in a straight line. I mean, let's be honest. What's this flash walking thing, compared to someone WHO KNOWS HOW TO AIM. Though that's majority, but still. Seems like you'd still be running in a straight line, and personally if i'm going to try and go some place, why not run to get to my destination faster. What's saving a few 15-30 ish sp when their is still the obstacles of a cs or Twin-blades AND constant fire.

I'm not saying this is useless, but I just can't see this being used on like old-school, or station 1.

LOL

Just running will kill you really fast. This move will throw off people who try to kill you, I've already done it in matches, I don't think you understand how this works, you're not running in a straight line at all, your character looks like hes turning left and right really fast and it throws them off, I haven't had anyone hit me (Mainly snipers) when I use flash step, and hey, it's a move, you gotta name it something, and it's not useless, maybe to those who don't understand its potential or how to use it see it as being useless. =P

[box]

I'm not the kind of person to learn jumps and tricks very often, so to me this is pointless. But I guess it could be useful to people who want to run in a harder to hit straight line. .__. That would kill my finger and I wouldn't take the time to learn it. I'll just run in a straight line or bunny hop and take my chances of dying lol.

Looks kind of cool, at least.

[Wolx.]

There are different forms of bunny hopping? Either way, still spamming "W" key.

[S⑨D]

I'd rather bunny hop in various directions uberfast or use a flash step (as you call it, i call it quickstepping) in intervals to throw people off. That kinda looks like straight running if you ask me. Also your bunny hopping example was pretty slow, not really a good example if you ask me.

[SeoulHeart ♥]

this song is from one of Cysotes tutorials =o

[Akage]

>.<" Ive seen you use this . Effing annoying to EVERYONE jesus >_> cant tell where you're running so its a bish to pickup after you die as well.

[Reiki]

Constructive criticism is advised please. Lets not get into off-tangent stuff like "You used music from X guide" and stuff.

I think it's an easier motion, but you should consider placing more "applicable situations" in your guide to give it its own meat. For example, when and what mode is this useful? As you noted, it's similar if not identical to Kaigu's wavestep or the fundamental wavedash maneuver. Most of these are not good in TD as a Striker because you're using SP to jump. Most Point Guards focus on killing enemies, but I can see applications there. How does this help and what modes does it help in?

I think you're doing fine, keep on doing your best, keep moving forward.

[PSHYCHEDELISHHH]

HMMM seems more like a "Twitch Step" to me! xD Interesting, but vertigo-inducing. e_o It looks like running with dash and flicking your mouse to a different direction?

I'll try it out when I have desperate runs (which occur very often). My fingers always ache after S4, so I got nothing to lose, LOL.

[Byuu.]

I wish my fingers were smart enough to do this :U

[Lag]

Um, so a faster bunny hop can be considered as a new technique?

[-NoctiS]

Lag, on 01 April 2011 - 08:45 AM, said:

Um, so a faster bunny hop can be considered as a new technique?

qft

And to post something of my own : get good :V

Also, this is no alternative to wave-dashing or wave-stepping because it's just a fast hop in a straight line. Wave-dashing doesn't move you in a straight line, or at least you don't use it that way unless you're a retard, and wave-stepping...god why am I writing this go and read Cysote's guide baddie

This post has been edited by -NoctiS: 01 April 2011 - 09:57 AM

[Aeromesi]

This move doesn't use Bunny hops key combo, it's not spamming W key if you're using it in a certain order, try it out for yourself and if you can do the continuous flash step it'll prevail, like in TD.

This technique doesn't have a certain map it can be used on/mode. How you use it is how effective it will be. Like when I get the ball instead of just holding down W I use this and I usually score/get very close to the goal post. Remember, I'm making a video of the gameplay in the future so when that happens you all can see.

-NoctiS, on 01 April 2011 - 09:55 AM, said:

qft

And to post something of my own : get good :V

Also, this is no alternative to wave-dashing or wave-stepping because it's just a fast hop in a straight line. Wave-dashing doesn't move you in a straight line, or at least you don't use it that way unless you're a retard, and wave-stepping...god why am I writing this go and read Cysote's guide baddie

If you have done this before can you supply a link to the evidence? And way to be rude, get good? lol!
All I see is you using a premium set and 3 force packs.. lolol.

I don't really prefer some of cysotes stuff, I have never seen this documented anywhere, Hella_Hell was like "Nice. I hoped someone will make a video of it." on alaplays forum, link: http://en.alaplaya.n...6.html#p4349100

And I'm pretty sure hella_hell has been here almost as long as you NoctiS, if not more, I don't see it documented it anywhere so I'm going to assume I never posted something of your own that doesn't exist.

Wolx it really isn't spamming the W key if it's in a certain pattern dude.

By the way it isn't running in a straight line, when I used it everyone was like how do you zig-zag so fast? I told them by using flash step lol.

In the video it clearly shows its not in a straight line. Dunno why anyone is getting that idea. =P
I just looked at Kaigu's wave stepping and he uses CS in all of his shiznits, I am not using CS in this video o.o

Akage, on 01 April 2011 - 06:17 AM, said:

>.<" Ive seen you use this . Effing annoying to EVERYONE jesus >_> cant tell where you're running so its a bish to pickup after you die as well.

Yup yup, only those that see it in game realize it's different. :D

This post has been edited by Aeromesi: 01 April 2011 - 10:54 AM

[Fox]

Bleh, It's a good idea overall to people who love new tricks and shet but to people like me who still get by on the basics (and lol at the people who call us noobs) this is useless. But props to you for creating a new moveset for my bro to spam, now he's gonna be bragging about this shet for ages *facepalm*

[Krunk]

That trick is so fckn old.. I'm doing that"Flash Step" since I saw this Video below.
And please, stop giving f*cked up names for every simple trick..

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This move was created by me, Aeromesi.

Trololol, then I created S4. =D

Watch it from 0.30. The same hop just "improved".
And u can do it faster than u showed us in your video..
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NoctiS > You.

This post has been edited by Lazy.: 01 April 2011 - 01:34 PM

[S⑨D]

I like how people say they created moves when they've existed and nobody even cared to name them for a long time, lol. Cysote, and everyone else too.

(aka KS4)

I don't really like flashy names like flashstepping, airhugging, etc etc either, but thats not the issue here.

Although this ain't strictly bunny hopping, its still a variation, and I the only good part about the guide I daresay is the information on the button combo. Might want to switch the video and contents to a more impressive way, by actually showing gameplay using it, zigzagging it, etc.

Also if I'm not wrong Espybuns is probably the first of EU to do this.

also from an objective point, I'd say if you feel any animosity from the posts up till now, its probably because you had the audacity to take some already used move and claim it your own, since a guide generally gives a feel of one inventing a move or something0. Probably if you went and said 'just a guide for starting strikers who want to learn stuff' it may have turned out better.

Also about hella hell and noctis, I don't really know or care who was here first or last, but skillwise Noctis >> hella.

[-NoctiS]

Aeromesi, on 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

If you have done this before can you supply a link to the evidence? And way to be rude, get good? lol!
All I see is you using a premium set and 3 force packs.. lolol.

If you really need evidence go and watch some of the S5 tournament matches , you'll see it happening. Because people have been doing it all the time, for a long time.
I'd be interested in how you see me play with a premium set and 3 force packs because :
1. Maybe you should get out of your egohut and watch the news. I'm playing without forcepacks in all the S5 tournaments and the Esl and I place highly within all.
2. I rarely log on s4 the last time I saw you was like a month or more ago.
3. The only times I use forcepacks at are the Versus tournaments.
4. I don't use full premium sets.
5. All I see is YOU using a premium set and 3 force packs.. lolol.

Aeromesi, on 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

I don't really prefer some of cysotes stuff, I have never seen this documented anywhere, Hella_Hell was like "Nice. I hoped someone will make a video of it." on alaplays forum, link: http://en.alaplaya.n...6.html#p4349100

And I'm pretty sure hella_hell has been here almost as long as you NoctiS, if not more, I don't see it documented it anywhere so I'm going to assume I never posted something of your own that doesn't exist.

Not like I said anything was mine to begin with but whatever.
I don't even know what hella has to do with all of this bs.
And, well, yea, Bunnyhopping never was documented anywhere, people just learned it on their own eventually.

Aeromesi, on 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

By the way it isn't running in a straight line, when I used it everyone was like how do you zig-zag so fast? I told them by using flash step lol.

Next time be honest and just say, I have 3 forcepacks equipped and wave my mouse around like a retard while rapidly pressing w and space in a certain order to bunnyhop at the same time.

Aeromesi, on 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

In the video it clearly shows its not in a straight line. Dunno why anyone is getting that idea. =P
I just looked at Kaigu's wave stepping and he uses CS in all of his shiznits, I am not using CS in this video o.o

That is because Kaigu didn't know about jumpcanceling at that time, so he was using revenge to cancel instead. Do you even realize how old that video is?
And the point I was trying to make about this way of moving not being an alternative to wavedashing or wavestepping is the following.
1. Only a complete retard would wavedash to close in distance the way you showed us in your video which leads to the fact that the niches in which these moves are used are completely different so you can't compare them or see them as a replacement for one another.
Wavedashing
2. wavestepping is a completely different moveset which is not really comparable to what you are doing.
Wavestepping

Aeromesi, on 01 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

Yup yup, only those that see it in game realize it's different. :D

Maybe so, I don't know and I don't care. Your so called "flash step" is nothing new, it's just that nobody would waste their time give bunnyhopping a second flashy name if it's performed faster.


Now please, Get good.

[cautioN]

they call noctis the maytag man because he lays the PIPE

[Reiki]

When I said constructive criticism, I meant not unloading elitism on someone. Okay? Can we do that? Is that too hard for me to ask somebody to do?