[Malene]

I've been playing since 09 but I still consider myself a newer player but hands down, old players.

[Dre]

Lag, on 26 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Agreeing with Show on a couple of points:

1. Old players tend to put more emphasis on aiming and not so much jumping/gatehopping/stairheroing, so they are mostly the ones hiding behind ball runners and the ones that do run the ball tend to carry Anchor (few exceptions).
2. New players tend to look up to the higher ranked/"best" players and try to model themselves after them, and if they see them using tons of AP, chances are they are going to get tons of AP to match.

And for my opinion on new vs old players, I don't think either are better. Old players complain too much about how the game used to be so much greater and how all new players that have a decent understanding of the game are hackers, new players complain too much about how they wish they played during pre-patch 10 and how all old players are elitist jerks, and both of them hate new players.

Are you LagIncarnate?

[Lag]

Genichimaru, on 26 January 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Are you LagIncarnate?

No, I'm not.

[Grave]

New players

[Goddess]

Lag = LagV also its hand down old players. New players buy AP++ before they even get to semi and they go from there which means they always need a handicap.

While oldies usually go from pen then AP(of some form) and hone their skill from there.

I was once a Pen player (shocking I know) I still play Pen for fun but hell now a days ppl would just roll you with FPs if you don't have proper defense.

[Shienryu]

Old players generally have more skills than new players since of course, they played the game longer. But to be honest I don't think S4 League has a very strong meta game that allows new player to catch up to old players. The style of the game that old players play is pretty much a solid strategy in S4. Many good players from the past quit now so its really hard to compare the two. But generally I think old players who still play the game will be better than new players.

But the amount of time put into this game doesn't always matter, it could just be natural skill. I do hate it that new players complain about me using anchor so much nowadays though. Also the only reason I hate on FP is that I try to spend money, and if I remember that was A LOT to attempt to get some FP to at least play a fair game with most of the community but my luck is completely terrible so I never got perm APs and got stuck with fumbis for life. I can still get an even amount of score compared to new players who do very well in a room with full FP though.

Premium items was a good idea when they brought out AP stats. But once S4 League pushed out the stat bonus farther and made it more costly the game got worse.

This post has been edited by Shienryu: 28 January 2012 - 12:39 AM

[V-Breezy]

id shit on all of you while blindfolded

[StyxNStones]

Versachuu, on 28 January 2012 - 04:40 AM, said:

id shit on all of you while blindfolded

Who you trying to impress, Mako? Everyone shits without looking.

[Paradise]

StyxNStones, on 28 January 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

Who you trying to impress, Mako? Everyone shits without looking.

LOLd

[King eXeD]

Aim wise, old players.
Jump wise (as in doing random ass tricks and useless crap that simply looks cool), old players.
Running like a boss without looking back (requires triple FP with HG/SD and full premium), new players.

Old ones win, hands down.

Of course it also depends on which old and which new players.

Obviously if we get an old baddie against a good newfag the newfag will win, but if we got the best oldies against the best newfags, I'm pretty goddamn sure the old ones would win (assuming they would still be as good as they used to), because in the past few months I haven't found anyone better than me (excluding OLD players that still play), and I'm not even that good.

This post has been edited by King eXeD: 28 January 2012 - 05:19 PM

[Dre]

King eXeD, on 28 January 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Aim wise, old players.
Jump wise (as in doing random ass tricks and useless crap that simply looks cool), old players.
Running like a boss without looking back (requires triple FP with HG/SD and full premium), new players.

Old ones win, hands down.

Of course it also depends on which old and which new players.

Obviously if we get an old baddie against a good newfag the newfag will win, but if we got the best oldies against the best newfags, I'm pretty goddamn sure the old ones would win (assuming they would still be as good as they used to), because in the past few months I haven't found anyone better than me (excluding OLD players that still play), and I'm not even that good.

I suppose you're right.

[SeoulHeart ♥]

Old Players > New Players, enough said.

[Frail]

This is a forum full of old players. I wonder what their opinions are.

[Dre]

Frail, on 29 January 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

This is a forum full of old players. I wonder what their opinions are.

Yes, I agree.

[Frail]

By the way I'd say old players. Purely because I don't think beating a team of players like Espybuns, Eliyn, Snowydayz, iNsp, and any other old player of your choosing is even possible. I can't say I've played most of the new players since I uninstalled like any other respectable player, but as far as I've heard/watched they can't aim or jump. They just run fast and can't die.

[JinNJuice]

I'm guessing you haven't seen my input on this, Frail, but I have said that neither are better. Besides, RIGHT NOW it is invalid to determine that much due to all the hackers in the game. Hell, even players in the US are using those hacking tools now.

[Neymar]

New players are way better

[Goddess]

^ Luls as much as I like your opinion care to explain why?

Thats like stating Old Players Rule everything and not giving a reason. Back up your opinion plox.

[Neymar]

I'm playing this game on top level since 3 years.
I played with the old top players and I'm playing against the new top players.
Is this enough?
Every old player who quit won't agree cause of honor, but Idc.

[Goddess]

^ what you wrote doesnt make much sense :I'm playing this game on top level< what does that mean?
Also thats not really a reason nor was it neccesary to call out older people. You also don't state who you are nor what you are which makes ur point even more null.

I play with new and old players nearly everyday, all the new "top players" do the same shet Triple FP's and Full AP++ armor oh not to forget Smash Rifle < Got to have that or else ur noob.

People who quit mean they really care about honor or else they wouldn't quit. Your points are at flux + you're completely unknown which means your points don't stand anywhere.

But alas thats your opinion so w/e.